Comments on: Calling for an annual “PR Is Dead” day http://www.socializedpr.com/calling-for-an-annual-pr-is-dead-day/ Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:59:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: socialized » The death of the death of the death of … http://www.socializedpr.com/calling-for-an-annual-pr-is-dead-day/#comment-1560 socialized » The death of the death of the death of … Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:34:55 +0000 http://www.socializedpr.com/?p=405#comment-1560 [...] campaigned against this idiotic practice a dozen times. I’ve called for an annual “PR Is Dead” day to celebrate the fact that it isn’t. I’ve begged bloggers to stop declaring the press release [...] [...] campaigned against this idiotic practice a dozen times. I’ve called for an annual “PR Is Dead” day to celebrate the fact that it isn’t. I’ve begged bloggers to stop declaring the press release [...]

]]> By: socialized » PR isn’t dead. At its best, PR saves lives. http://www.socializedpr.com/calling-for-an-annual-pr-is-dead-day/#comment-1035 socialized » PR isn’t dead. At its best, PR saves lives. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:39:50 +0000 http://www.socializedpr.com/?p=405#comment-1035 [...] not necessarily the best day for an event celebrating death, even in a satirical way. Lloyd Grosse called me on my gaffe, and when he told me his story, I invited him to respond with a guest post [...] [...] not necessarily the best day for an event celebrating death, even in a satirical way. Lloyd Grosse called me on my gaffe, and when he told me his story, I invited him to respond with a guest post [...]

]]> By: joel http://www.socializedpr.com/calling-for-an-annual-pr-is-dead-day/#comment-1033 joel Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:13:55 +0000 http://www.socializedpr.com/?p=405#comment-1033 Lloyd, Please re-read the post. Dennis did not suggest December 1, I did. I chose the date arbitrarily. The actual date didn’t matter, because I was not really calling for such a day. Secondly, Dennis did not use the word death, die or any other form of the word in his post. He remarked that PR is “over.” The expression “the death of” something is a common metaphor, and long ago lost its connection to any suggestion, even a humorous one, that harm should come to any person. I used it in mockery of the all too frequent posts that use this metaphor, and have in fact written frequently that it is a tired maxim. While I meant no offense, it would seem that you were offended, and for that, I deeply and sincerely apologize. Joel Lloyd,

Please re-read the post. Dennis did not suggest December 1, I did. I chose the date arbitrarily. The actual date didn’t matter, because I was not really calling for such a day.

Secondly, Dennis did not use the word death, die or any other form of the word in his post. He remarked that PR is “over.” The expression “the death of” something is a common metaphor, and long ago lost its connection to any suggestion, even a humorous one, that harm should come to any person. I used it in mockery of the all too frequent posts that use this metaphor, and have in fact written frequently that it is a tired maxim.

While I meant no offense, it would seem that you were offended, and for that, I deeply and sincerely apologize.

Joel

]]> By: lloyd http://www.socializedpr.com/calling-for-an-annual-pr-is-dead-day/#comment-1032 lloyd Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:31:03 +0000 http://www.socializedpr.com/?p=405#comment-1032 Dennis - as a person with HIV and a PR professional - I marvel at your sensitivity in proposing World AIDS Day as a day where my profession should die. Spray and pray PR should die every day - good PR saves lives! Dennis - as a person with HIV and a PR professional - I marvel at your sensitivity in proposing World AIDS Day as a day where my profession should die. Spray and pray PR should die every day - good PR saves lives!

]]> By: joel http://www.socializedpr.com/calling-for-an-annual-pr-is-dead-day/#comment-1031 joel Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:47:03 +0000 http://www.socializedpr.com/?p=405#comment-1031 Dennis, I didn't miss your point. You used a provocative, sweeping generalization to draw attention to a more specific point. I employed the same device. Joel Dennis,

I didn’t miss your point. You used a provocative, sweeping generalization to draw attention to a more specific point. I employed the same device.

Joel

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://www.socializedpr.com/calling-for-an-annual-pr-is-dead-day/#comment-1030 Dennis Howlett Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:31:44 +0000 http://www.socializedpr.com/?p=405#comment-1030 Thanks for the riff but you're missing the point. It is dead for me. I acknowledged the industry is far from dead. @Mike - how right you are. The moment I hear: "I'm a social media expert" I usually ask what school of social psychology they subscribe to. That usually elicits blank stares. (Hint: I have a degree in socpsych) That's the point when I know they know that I know they don't know shit from shinola. Thanks for the riff but you’re missing the point. It is dead for me. I acknowledged the industry is far from dead.

@Mike - how right you are. The moment I hear: “I’m a social media expert” I usually ask what school of social psychology they subscribe to. That usually elicits blank stares. (Hint: I have a degree in socpsych) That’s the point when I know they know that I know they don’t know shit from shinola.

]]> By: Mike McGrath http://www.socializedpr.com/calling-for-an-annual-pr-is-dead-day/#comment-1029 Mike McGrath Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:15:56 +0000 http://www.socializedpr.com/?p=405#comment-1029 At least some agencies have read the handwriting on the wall and have realized they either evolve or die. They may stumble as they learn, but at least the patient is still alive. A bigger concern to me is the land grab for social media services. In addition to PR agencies, marketers, web shops, ad agencies or even SEO consultants (God forbid) are all staking claims. In my experience the SEO crowd is the worst. To them, blogger relations isn't about engaging influencers, it's about linkbuilding. In their world, spam is part of every meal. At least some agencies have read the handwriting on the wall and have realized they either evolve or die. They may stumble as they learn, but at least the patient is still alive.

A bigger concern to me is the land grab for social media services. In addition to PR agencies, marketers, web shops, ad agencies or even SEO consultants (God forbid) are all staking claims. In my experience the SEO crowd is the worst. To them, blogger relations isn’t about engaging influencers, it’s about linkbuilding. In their world, spam is part of every meal.

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